Curse

Shuriken · Jan 22, 2008, 11:31 AM // 11:31

Motivation 12+3+1
Leadership 12+1
Water Magic 3

[skill]cautery signet[/skill][skill]frigid armor[/skill][skill]awe[/skill][skill]there's nothing to fear[/skill][skill]aria of restoration[/skill][skill]aria of zeal[/skill][skill]leaders zeal[/skill][skill]signet of return[/skill]

I have been using this build in places where there are a lot of conditions, now, I was hoping to get some constructive criticism on it. So nothing like this build is crap or whatever, if you got something usefull to say about it please do, otherwise just sshhh. Thanks in forward, Pfong.

Wakka · Jan 22, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39

I'm confused as to why Awe is in there to be honest with no kockdown to trigger it? It may be a better idea to go with another chant/shout.

Shuriken · Jan 22, 2008, 11:53 AM // 11:53

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Originally Posted by Wakka

I'm confused as to why Awe is in there to be honest with no kockdown to trigger it? It may be a better idea to go with another chant/shout.

The knockdown basicly is there because I play with ele's quite a lot, but it would indeed be better to change it for an other skill to fit groups without kd.

Pyro maniac · Jan 22, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

drop frigid armor and add save yourselves?
burning isn't that bad

also 8+1 spear mastery is good, even with just auto-attacking you're dealing quite some damage (less to high armored HM mobs tho)

the Puppeteer · Jan 22, 2008, 01:21 PM // 13:21

What if you replace frigid armor with [skill]Plague Touch[/skill]?

Yichi · Jan 22, 2008, 01:35 PM // 13:35

no ias, no damage, no usefulness....

I'm confused as to why this is good?

Squishy ftw · Jan 22, 2008, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by Yichi

I'm confused as to why this is good?

Who said it was ?

I would:
- drop frigid armor for remedy sig. or mending touch
- Put at least 9 into spear mastery and drop awe for whatever spear attack skill you like.
- Change leader's zeal with SY

Kyrein · Jan 22, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by Pyro maniac

drop frigid armor and add save yourselves?
burning isn't that bad

it is when you have 30 seconds or so of it from cautery signet

Wakka · Jan 22, 2008, 02:05 PM // 14:05

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it is when you have 30 seconds or so of it from cautery signet

You've just removed all conditions from the entire party. I'm sure your monk can afford to [skill=text]Mend Condition[/skill].

Moloch Vein · Jan 22, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

If you want to Cautery Signet wouldn't it be easier to just add Remedy Signet?

With that high motivation why not use Song of Purification? Feels like a better match.

zling · Jan 22, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

if you really want [skill]cautery signet[/skill] to be effective you should go /Mes for [skill]mantra of inscriptions[/skill]
cause 15 sec recharge isnt gonna help much if conditions are such a big problem for you...
or even better, go primary Mesmer and use [skill]cautery signet[/skill] along with your favourite Mesmer skills... that way you reduce [skill]cautery signet[/skill] recharge to around 1 sec, more useful lmho...

Wakka · Jan 22, 2008, 02:29 PM // 14:29

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

With that high motivation why not use Song of Purification? Feels like a better match.

Listen to him.

Shuriken · Jan 22, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by zling

or even better, go primary Mesmer and use [skill]cautery signet[/skill] along with your favourite Mesmer skills... that way you reduce [skill]cautery signet[/skill] recharge to around 1 sec, more useful lmho...

That is not an option, im playing paragon to play paragon, not to play cautery signet. I was just posting this build to get some help improving it and looking what people think of it. As far as the thread is going, I am really pleased with the commenting so far, some really usefull tips and ideas in it, and I will try them all when I get at my laptop, for some reason GW keeps getting stuck on my PC. Thanks to
those already commented, I really like the Paragon community. Keep going and thanks already!

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Originally Posted by the Puppeteer

What if you replace frigid armor with [skill]Plague Touch[/skill]?

It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while?

Racthoh · Jan 22, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

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Originally Posted by Shuriken

That is not an option, im playing paragon to play paragon, not to play cautery signet.

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Originally Posted by Shuriken

Motivation 12+3+1
Leadership 12+1
Water Magic 3

Those attributes suggest you are not playing paragon.

Moloch Vein · Jan 23, 2008, 12:16 AM // 00:16

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Originally Posted by Shuriken

It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while?

Well, if you think it's cool to burn stuff you can always use Plague Sending. Maybe a little pricey for a Paragon, but... I still think SoP would be a more effective anti-Conditioner.

Also I agree with Racthoh, I think your attributes are off. Don't really see the point in the superior rune if we talk about malus versus return, don't see the point in zero Spear either.

Marverick · Jan 23, 2008, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Just put [skill]Song of Purification[/skill] on any spear build and you're set...

something like

[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Purification[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill][skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][wiki]"There's Nothing to Fear!"[/wiki][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]

11+1 motivation, 11+x+1 spear, 8 tactics, 3+1 command

Arkantos · Jan 23, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Just put [skill]Song of Purification[/skill] on any spear build and you're set...

something like

[skill]Aggressive Refrain[/skill][skill]Ballad of Restoration[/skill][skill]Song of Purification[/skill][skill]"Go for the Eyes!"[/skill][skill]Spear of Lightning[/skill][skill]Vicious Attack[/skill][wiki]"There's Nothing to Fear!"[/wiki][skill]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]

11+1 motivation, 11+x+1 spear, 8 tactics, 3+1 command

0 leadership, your aggressive refrain lasts 5 seconds and TNTF lasts 4 seconds. Good luck keeping AR up, let alone managing your energy.

Marverick · Jan 23, 2008, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

0 leadership, your aggressive refrain lasts 5 seconds and TNTF lasts 4 seconds. Good luck keeping AR up, let alone managing your energy.

lol sorry I wasn't paying attention *slaps self in head*

ok yea, so 10+1+1 motivation, 10+2 spear, 11+1 leadership, 1+1 command, and dump the tactics part

Terraban · Jan 23, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by Shuriken

It's not a bad idea but since as paragon you are primary ranged isnt this too much effort to get rid of your burning? can easily take 3-10sec before you reached the frontline properly (when tanked good) and then the burning is already going for a while?

If "tanked good", then [skill]"It's just a flesh wound."[/skill] would be much better, no?

NecroticChanter · Jan 23, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

I agree... if i go anti-condition para, I'll take "It's just a flesh wound!"

It's cheap and effective, I usually take remedy sig in PvP along with it to get rid of the deep wound.